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Jack Nicklaus Q&A (Honda Classic) PDF Print E-mail




The Golden Bear sat down for a candid Q&A with certain members of the golf media Sunday, February

28th, 2016 at the Honda Classic. He spoke of the '86 Masters, the Ryder Cup dinner at the Nicklaus house,

Caddies, Tiger Woods, Mentoring younger players, Jordan Spieth, and the what the Honda Classic means

to the S. Florida community.




Q: Does anything stand out (about the '86 Masters), anything more as time has passed on?


JACK NICKLAUS: They stand out much less, I promise you (laughter).

I'm not going to waste everybody's time with that. I think we're going to do - I think the Golf

Channel is going to do a special on the '86 Masters. Seems like we just did the one from the

25th year yesterday, but it was five years ago. Could talk forever about it, but I don't think

this is the time and place.


Q: We know you had Davis and all the American possible/probable Ryder Cup players around

on Thursday night. How much do you enjoy that and how much do you think that will help in

terms of building team spirit?


JACK NICKLAUS: I don't know, I can't imagine how them coming over to have dinner at an

old man's house is going to help any (laughter). We enjoyed having them. It was flattering.

Davis called well ahead of time and asked, and I said, "How many would you like to bring

over?" And he said, "I don't know, somewhere between 30 and 60." Oh okay, just a small

party . . . but anyway, I think we had 29 players, 29 people there, something like that.

Anyway, it was a very nice dinner. It was attended by Davis, his three assistant captains,

which of course is Tiger, Jim Furyk and Tom Lehman and most of the fellas who will probably

contend for the Ryder Cup Team. There were some that weren't there, but what the dinner

was about was I think more getting the guys together, trying to get a little bit of bonding,

trying to have them pick my brain a little bit about being a past captain and past player, trying

to build a little enthusiasm within the group, and I think the guys were very pleased with that.

So it was a very nice evening.


My wife gave them too much food (laughter) and probably too much wine. But the wine was

terrific. It was mine (laughter). And too much of my ice cream which was really good, too.

These are my commercials . . . but I think they had a nice evening. I think hopefully we didn't

get them home too early. I know Rickie wasn't affected adversely. He shot, what, 66 again the

next day. Didn't bother him. I thought it was a very nice evening, and Davis asked me if we

could do something similar at Muirfield when we are at Memorial, so I said sure, be happy




Q: You've talked many times about how special it was to have Jackie caddie for you at the

'86 Masters. Do you recall how that came about that he worked for you that week, and can

you talk to how much he might have helped you?


JACK NICKLAUS: I don't really remember. I'm trying to think, who caddied for me the

previous year, probably Angelo caddied for me the year before, maybe not, I don't know.

That was about the time when - I think Angelo and I parted. It was kind of a funny story.

Angelo was caddying for me at Pinehurst and we got to the fourth hole - par 5, and I

asked him where the pin was. He said the pin was in the back, and I hit it in the back of

the green and the pin was up front. In those days they never gave the pins out to the players,

and that was his job. His job was to go out before the round and get the pins and make sure

what's going on - on the golf course, if there was anything different or unusual. Well, he

didn't do that - that morning. He spent alot of time at the edge of the rope signing his book

"The Bear and I."  I said, "Angelo you have been around for a long time , I think it's time

that maybe we just sort of stop this."


Of course Angelo and I were friends for years after that, but you get all my courses, did all

of the yardages for my courses and all that kind of stuff. I think that was probably the year

before. So it was like I didn't really have a caddie, and the kids had caddied for me a little

bit before. Steve caddied for me at Colonial when I won in '82. Jackie caddied for me at

Muirfield when I won in '84 and Jackie caddied for me in '76 when Jimmy pulled his achilles

at Birkdale where Johnny won.


So I think I just started - I wasn't playing that much. I said to the kids, would you like to

caddie. And so they started splitting it up. I think Jackie took the Masters and I think he had

the Open, and Steve had the British Open and the PGA I think. So that's what they did, and

so he just happened to be on the bag . . .


But as it relates, I always look at a caddie - these guys look at caddies a little different than

I did. They rely a little bit more than I did. I never relied on a caddie for anything. I always

relied on a caddie to be there, be on time; have the three "ups" of caddying: show up, keep

up and shut up, the ups of caddying. I never had anybody really get into me on caddying.

Although there's still only two guys I ever ask anything about on a green, that's Jackie and Steve.

Both were good putters. They weren't going to give me anymore than they thought, and so I

would confirm a lot of times with them. So that part was fine.



Q: Augusta National is looking at acquiring some land, more land from Augusta Country Club

to do some things around 12 and 13, possibly even actually making 13 longer. What do you

think about making 13 longer?



JACK NICKLAUS: Well, they already made it longer once. They bought a little bit of land

from Augusta Country Club. The tee shot at 13 would be helped by a little bit of length.

Yeah, I think it would be. I don't think there's any question about that.


Guys now take it over the top of everything, or take a 3 wood even over the top of

everything. I used to be able to do that too, but the trees were about half the size. But

I think that the tee shot is really dangerous and it needs to be hit well. I think with the

length the guys hit the ball today, it's a little easier than it needs to be. It's not really a

par 5 the way it is. It is but it isn't . . .  and I think a little length would not hurt that. I

hope they don't decide to take the 12th green and move it back with it.



Q: It's just the land area they would acquire would be back there, but they are not going

to touch 12 I don't think, just 13.



JACK NICKLAUS: Augusta, has done a really good job of changing the golf course to suit

the times. I think they have done a better job than anybody. They can well afford that,

though, but not many people can. I think most of the holes sit in there nice. If they want to

change 12, they have 50 yards behind it (tee) if they wanted to, but they certainly don't

need it. It sits in there very nicely.


Q: Just to confirm, 25 yards is enough on something like that if they wanted to extend it?



JACK NICKLAUS: I think so. If the guys hit the ball over the trees and there's probably a

half dozen of them that can, and they only have certain conditions they can do it in. I don't

think many guys hit driver there anyway. They play 3 wood and 5/6 iron, and basically -

well the 10th hole is longer than the 13th hole. I'm sure 11 is longer. 10 and 11 are both

longer than 13 . . .


Q: You're a member-



JACK NICKLAUS: I don't pay for it that much. I just pay my dues and keep my mouth shut

. . . and that's not one of my strong suits, you know that. (Laughter).



Q: You had all of the rising stars of the TOUR out at the house, a lot of them haven't played

in a Ryder Cup. Can you give a thought or a memory or two about your first Ryder Cup as a

player, maybe who some of the veterans were on the team, and just what the experience is




JACK NICKLAUS: Well, my first Ryder Cup was 1969. I had been pro for seven years - it was

my eighth year as a pro. Then you had to be member of the PGA to play in the Ryder Cup,

which meant that you had to play five years on the TOUR, 25 tournaments, or four years and

go to the school that they had. So I played four years and went to school.


So when I became a member of the PGA, I had a year to make a two year team and I didn't

- or in '67, I had less than a year to make a two year team and did not make it in '67. Then I

made the team in '69, but it's not that way today. I mean, if you come out of high school, you

can make the Ryder Cup team now if you play well. I think if your a golf professional and you

can play, if you're good enough to make your country's team, then you ought to play. I think

being a member of the PGA was kind of silly, but that was the rules. Our rules, not their rules.

They put guys right out - Tony Jacklin was a young kid when he started playing (in the Ryder



Sam was captain of that team. Who was on the team? I don't remember. I really don't remember.

I'm sure Arnold had to be on it.



Q: How would you describe your curiosity as to where Tiger goes from here, and if you've

spoken to him?



JACK NICKLAUS: First time I've spoken to Tiger was the other night at dinner. He talked a

lot. There was an article written about Tiger and what he told , he was feeling good and he

told that to everybody.


He says he was feeling good and he was feeling great and he was able to stand over a putt

and chip now without having any leg pain and so forth. I just, you know, we didn't really talk

a whole lot about it. Wished him well. We talked a little bit about - he never said - he doesn't

have a timetable for returning or anything else. He's pretty private about what his situation is

and I don't blame him, because every time he opens his mouth, there's nothing but articles

written about speculation about Tiger . . . and I don't want to break his - he likes when we talk,

we talk about different things. So I think that's fine, but he looked very good. He looked very

healthy, and he really misses playing. So that's good . . . I just don't think it's my place to expound

on Tiger's health and so forth.



Q: Was curious about your curiosity, he's still a young guy by comparison -




JACK NICKLAUS: Sure, he's 40 years old. I did pretty well when I was 40.



Q: Curious about where it goes from here, you personally as a golf fan?



JACK NICKLAUS: I've told Tiger many times and I told him again the other night, I said you

know Tiger, you know and you and I have talked about it, nobody wants their records to be

broken, but I don't want you to NOT have the ability to have that opportunity to do so by your

health. So I wish you well and I hope you get out there as soon as you feel like you can play,

and I hope you do well. Basically that's what I had with Tiger.


Q: How many players seek you out for conversation or advice, and do you ever find yourself

kind of intrigued by the questions they ask you?

JACK NICKLAUS: I am intrigued sometimes. I've had a lot of guys come to me. most of them

are afraid to approach me. I'm flattered that all of these young guys want to listen to what an

old guys has to say. It's very flattering and very nice that they want to do that. I'm happy to

give my time to any one of them who wants to talk to me and sit down and I'm happy to do


Do I have a lot of them? I probably have had a dozen or so that have come to me, and we'll

have lunch or we'll just talk or this and that. Sometimes it may just be a few words. I get a

lot of credit from Jordan; I didn't have a lot of conversation with Jordan. We had a few little

things we talked back and forth, he asked me a couple questions, basically, but Jordan and I

spent five to ten minutes, max.

Q: With Jordan coming up to defend at the Masters, curious what you thought of him over the

last couple years, what strikes you about him?

JACK NICKLAUS: Very Mature. Very savvy about how to play golf. What Jordan does which

I really admire, because it's a lot what I tried to do. I always got something pretty good out

of my game when I wasn't playing well . . . and Jordan looks doesn't look like he's spectacular

all the time, but he certainly manages his game very, very well for a young guy. He doesn't

seem to, except what did he do last week, he didn't play very well I guess, but everybody has

a bad week. I think he's very savvy, smart, calm collected kid who thinks his way well around

the golf course, who is not the most spectacular striker of the golf ball or anything else, but a

very, very good, solid - got a very solid golf swing. he has a very uncomplicated golf swing.

He's got a great shortgame, which is fantastic. He chips the ball fantastic. Oddly enough his

worst putting comes from about two to six feet. He's a fantastic middle length putter, makes a

ton of those putts.

I like him as a kid, too. I like him as a person. I think he's 22 now, he's well beyond that in

maturity, the way he handles himself. I think the way he's handled his sister has been a

tremendous thing, not only for his sister, but for him, because he's grown up with things that

have not been perfect and he's handled them very well. So I give him a tremendous amount

of credit.

JACK NICKLAUS on the Honda Classic: We have a great feeling towards what Honda has done

and what's happened, and so we're not only grateful for that, but I hope a lot of kids are going

to benefit from what's happened from that, and look at the support we have. We used to come

into the room here the Honda tournament, and we might have three guys in the press and they

would all cover horse racing. They weren't golf fans and it wasn't that much. so you guys have all

helped to make the charity grow. I don't know what the charity is going to do this year but they

did a little over 2 million last year. (It was that the 2016 event raised $2.55 million for the Nicklaus

Children's Charity)

The tournament's come around. It's become a pretty darned good tournement, and I think the

players for the most part enjoy it. I think they all would like to win it and it's your support and

Honda's people have done it. Ken Kennerly's people have done it and allowed us to be part of the

community. Thanks very much.









Bandon Dunes Experience - 2015 Edition PDF Print E-mail


It's the week of the 144th Open Championship at the Home of Golf, so what better time

to feature our latest visit to the only American golf resort that's an authentic links experience -

Bandon Dunes. True links golf of the highest order is rare anywhere, and in the U.S it's a

virtual unicorn . . . but on the south coast of Oregon there's five links layouts designed by

the best land shapers on the planet (and the coolest putting course you'll ever see on this

side of the Atlantic).


The scene at Bandon Dunes Resort as we arrived on the evening of June 9th.




Bandon Dunes Resort is one of those golf destinations that has been described and

showcased numerous times through brilliant images (and we have plenty more of those

to peak your interest). No wordsmith or photographer can adequately convey the

uniqueness of Mike Keiser's brilliant linksland (but we will try to do so). In 2012 we

presented each course in full detail hole by hole, but in this edition we'll focus on a

broader look at the resort thru my own personal experience of what it's like to be at

the place known as "golf as it was meant to be".


I flew into Portland, and waited as my Aussie friend Dean Lenerth arrived from his

long journey from Sydney. At the airport rental car center it appeared as though every

human being in the free world had descended upon the Pacific Northwest that week,

but finally we got on the road heading nearly 5 hours south towards Bandon. Our drive

south flew by, spending the time catching up since we last saw each other 2 years

ago while working together at Merion for the U.S Open.


Bandon Preserve

It was 93 degrees when we left the airport in Portland, but when we pulled in front of the

Bandon Clubhouse it was a cool and breezy 61 degrees . . . perfect links weather. First

thing after checking in, it was straight to the most scenic short course in America. If you

travel to Bandon don't make the mistake (as many do) of passing on Coore & Crenshaw's

13 hole Bandon Preserve par 3 layout. (second hole at B.P pictured above)




This visual says it all. Bandon Preserve's fabulous 5th




Bandon Dunes

Bandon's first tee staging area is where it all begins. During our first full day on the

grounds I like to hover around the clubhouse and pro shop to soak in the vibe from

the staff and visitors - before teeing off we had lunch at the Tufted Puffin with two

of my favorite staff members at the resort - Michael Chupka and the mighty Ken




This June was my second run at the place I call my favorite spot in American

golf. I didn't change up the itinerary much from the first visit 3 years ago, but

did choose to tweak a few things schedule wise for self preservation (after all,

there would still be 10 days in Washington left on the journey, including a week

of work at Chambers Bay for the U.S Open and two more rounds at opposite ends

of the state. Therefore, a less cluttered slate was chosen, opting for quality

and moderation over quantity - only one 36 hole day was the intended plan

(choosing to space the tee times out to allow for more recovery time, and to

experience the various restaurants and sites around the resort). In doing so, the

7 hr drive back up to Tacoma (for our meeting at Chambers Bay before the U.S

Open) wasn't as arduous as it would have been had we packed in more rounds of



We also wanted to experience the best ocean holes for later in the day, so the

schedule reflected that, Bandon, Pacific and Old Mac were penciled in as late

afternoon rounds.


There are moments while walking and playing along the rugged shores of Southern

Oregon that are more than just golf, the points on the property where the land meets

the sea are so dramatic, to many (including myself) it can be as much a spiritual

experience as it is about golf  . . . especially late in the day as the sun retreats towards

the Pacific.

Perhaps the best example of this is the 16th at Bandon Dunes, I've mentioned many times

that it's my favorite setting in American golf, so bear with me as I gush over McKlay Kidd's

"Mona Lisa". It's a driveable par 4 with a chasm that runs diagonally across the fairway about

150 yards from the forward tee. An elongated dune runs parallel to the chasm and bisects the

fairway as it trails off into a greenside bunker. The ocean, which is rarely the supporting cast is

the perfect compliment here.


On this particular Wednesday, it was my Dad's birthday (June 10th), and although he hasn't

been with us for decades, thoughts of him are never far away, especially on a day and

place such as this. As the sun started to descend towards the horizon and the glistening

pacific below, hitting golf shots was just part of the experience . . . the scorecard meant

very little.

Another view of McKlay Kidd's finest, the sixteenth at B.D




Of course when the score becomes less a priority, you start to produce well executed

shots. As was the case on sixteen, two solid shots produced a tap in birdie (the only one

of the day), then it was time for a few moments at what I like to call "Serenity Point".

Thousands of golfers who have walked these links have looked out over the Pacific from

this spot. The setting, the tranquil sounds of the shoreline . . .

Can't get enough of this visual.



Punchbowl Putting Course

The Punchbowl putting course (designed by Tom Doak & Jim Urbina) that opened a year ago,

sits beside the first tee at Pacific Dunes. Every kind of putt you can imagine and then some is

out there on the various routings the staff can set up. They switch up the the tee and hole

locations a few times per week to add variety and to keep the fine fescue turf from getting worn

out from foot traffic. The two acre putting course was inspired by the Himalayas at St.Andrews.

Golf needs more of these types of creative uses of land, it fosters a social component and creates

interest for juniors that your typical practice green lacks.




The experience of hangin with friends or even your kids for a little flatstick showdown

as the sun sets, is a great time, especially at one of game's great venues. Memories of

shortgame competitions with buddies at places like Kiawah Ocean, Pebble Beach, Bethpage,

Whistling Straits, Streamsong, Chambers Bay, World Woods, Dorado Beach, Atlanta Athletic

Club, Winged Foot, Pine Needles, Erin Hills and Orange County National still standout as

great times with buddies. Just like those experiences, a stroll around the Punchbowl (we

made several) is tons of fun, and might be the ultimate casual social hangout for those who

just can't get enough golf. By the way, the Punchbowl is no cost to resort guests.




Bandon Trails

The Clubhouse for Trails and Preserve




For those who don't know, Bandon Trails is the Coore/Crenshaw design that is the resort's

only inland tree lined course. It's only a few hundred yards from the shoreline, but between

the rustic brush and mulch paths between greens and tees and elevation, you'll feel like

you're in another part of Oregon. For obvious reasons, the fiercest winds don't quite have the

same effect at Trails . . . but they do tend to swirl and confound golfers.

Bandon Trails is in my opinion the most underrated golf course in America. It rarely gets it's

due because it competes against the seaside courses at the resort, but for shot values it's

every bit as good as Pacific, B.D and Old Mac. The par 3 fifth is an example of why a par 3

doesn't need to be 230 yards to be a good test.



It was a pleasure to have my buddy Dean Lenerth along to share the whole Bandon

experience. High winds kept any kind of scoring expectations from being realized,

but you're not at Bandon for an ego ride, you're there for an authentic links experience,

breathtaking views and the company of your playing partners. We did manage to have

a few good matches - especially at the Punchbowl, where the smack talk was as good as

the action.

Two lads from opposite sides of the globe - Bandon Trails 1st tee.





Bandon Trails 9th




Every great golf destination has a flaw or two, and if Bandon has one it's the recent

invasion of Poa that has krept onto the putting surfaces at both B.D and Pacific.

Fescue greens are relatively new in the U.S, but as we've seen at Chambers Bay -

Fescue and Poa together are not a good combo. It's true, the nature of links golf is not

to be pristine, so there is some flexibility in the judgement of such things, but after you

play the other courses at the resort like Old Mac, Bandon Preserve or even Bandon Trails,

there is a definite distinction between proper roll and bumpy.


Ken Nice (Director of Agronomy) acknowledged that there are some definite challenges

going on, but they have learned so much more about Fescue in the last 5 years or so.

He feels it's likely the newer courses have a better chance of keeping the Poa under

control - lets hope so. The staff and management at Bandon don't have the arrogance

of many other top resorts, they know what they have and the right people are in place

to uphold that.







Chrome Lake room

A suggestion to future Bandon visitors over the age of 40 or those opting to carry or

tote their own bags multiple rounds per day. Trekking around the various links layouts

all day long (Bandon is walking only), is tough on your body, especially your legs, hips

and back. A good hot soak at the end of the day is almost mandatory. If it's your first

trip to the resort and you don't intend to splurge on one of Bandon's fine caddies, then

make sure you reserve one of the Chrome Lake villas, it's well worth the slight difference

in price. TRUST ME on this one.





If you take a less strenous schedule at the resort, accommodations like Lily Pond

(shower only) will do just fine.




Pace of Play & conditions

The pace of play of every round was excellent, right around four hours and that was

walking up and down rugged terrain and dunes with a constant 40 mph gale all week.

I'm not sure of another major resort, where the cadence of the round moves as well

as it does at Bandon. Helpful course rangers are strategically placed throughout

each routing to guide you along, or for just a cheerful chat.


The winds were strong, so strong that my bag & riksha pull cart blew over numerous times.

The teenager next to me on the range had his titleist hat fly off his head about a dozen

times in 5 minutes. Although the temps were moderate every afternoon during our visit,

a wool cap was definitely the way to go (keeping the wind off the ears made for a better

experience). If you could figure out the right club and execute the correct trajectory,

there were chances for a highlight or two. One of the rangers informed me that June/July

are typically the windiest months of the year at Bandon - blowing 30-40mph is pretty

average. *August/September I've been informed is supposedly much more tame.


Pacific Dunes

One of my favorite, and certainly among the most scenic par 3's in America - the

eleventh at Pacific Dunes.




The view from behind the eleventh. Everytime I walk off this green, I want to turn around and

play it again. That's the ultimate compliment to Doak's design.




The 444 yd thirteenth at Pacific is known as one of the best par 4's in America, I'd also add

that it's a pretty good look as well.




Old Macdonald

Old Mac is one of those courses, the more you play it . . . the more you'll appreciate

it, I know I do. Despite it being the newest of the championship courses, it has a classic

old school Scottish feel, which was Doak's intention with this Ode to Charles Blair Macdonald.

The greens are the largest and most complex at the resort, and is presently in the best

condition of the 4 championship layouts. It's hard to imagine better fescue surfaces then

those at Old Mac, pure.


The bunker that guards the front left side of the 16th green at Old Mac looks like it's been there

for centuries. Tom Doak's green complexes here are extraordinary.




The Ghost Tree guards the perfect line to the third fairway at Old Mac





It would be hard to find better fescue surfaces than those at Old Mac.






Often you'll meet people during your time at the resort and connect instantly,

such was the case with Kyle who was a single that joined us for our round at Old Mac.

Above, Kyle blasts out of this huge cross bunker on the sixth at Old Mac





Afterwards we met up with Kyle and his Dad for Dinner in the upstairs dining room at

McKee's Pub. The conversation was really fascinating as Kyle's Dad spoke about his

days of working for decades as a Division I College Basketball referee, including

numerous Final Fours.



The guys all ordered the signature dish at McKee's - Grandma's Meatloaf and raved

about it, I went with typical pub grub - Beer Battered Fish n Chips, which was equally


Usually I make it a point to keep in touch with those that make an impression, and

clearly I dropped the ball when I didn't get Kyle and his Dad's contact info (it was an

act of kindness for Kyle to invite Dean and I, and buy us dinner). After dinner, Dean

and I chased the sun down with another putting match at the Punchbowl, where a group

of 12 prepared for a chilly night of glow ball putting being set up by the staff.


Trails End restaurant at the Bandon Trails Clubhouse




This is the view from the dining room and outside patio tables at Trails End.





We sampled every restaurant at the resort, and some multiple times. We ate at McKee's

Pub twice for dinner, the Tufted Puffin twice for lunch. Trails End restaurant for all three

meals (this is the least crowded and most underrated eatery on the property). The Gallery

restaurant at the Bandon Dunes clubhouse has a breakfast buffet in the main clubhouse,

which is best if you're running short on time. We also had breakfast at Pacific Grill on our

last morning there.


Breakfast at Pacific Grill



A few suggestions of notable menu items that Dean and I ate during our stay at the resort:



Trails End: Pressed Baguette Sandwich

Pacific Grill: Traditional Breakfast

The Gallery: Bandon Dunes Scramble *(previous visit)



Trails End: Turkey Wrap, Chicken Panini

Tufted Puffin: Bandon Cheeseburger, Roast Turkey Sandwich


McKees Pub: Beer Battered Fish n Chips, Chicken Pot Pie, Grandma's Meatloaf

Trails End (dinner menu is Asian Fusion) - Broccoli Beaf, Street Cart Chicken




We ran into a few other scribes from Golfweek as we shopped for items in the pro shop

at Bandon Trails, obviously those guys had the same idea as we did before heading to

Chambers Bay.



The clubhouse view of the putting green and 18th at Bandon Dunes on our last evening.



On our final morning, we packed the rental car for the 7 hour drive up to Chambers Bay

and had breakfast at Pacific Grill. It was another outstanding experience at Bandon Dunes

Resort, I'm already looking forward to my next visit to the place THAT IS - "Golf As It

Was Meant To Be" . . .


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